[DDI-SRG] DDI V3 and formatted questionnaire text

[Wendy Thomas]

Karl,

The sections of LiteralText has been taken care of as is anything using 
DynamicTextType (QuestionText, ResponseText, DisplayText)

If we change Label it will not be done piecemeal. The change would occur 
in r:Label. This is the only additional part I will ask TIC to act on at 
this point. Changing r:Label to structuredstring would affect Label the 
following:

OrganizationScheme
ConceptScheme
UniverseScheme
GeographicStructureScheme
GeographicLocationScheme
InterviewerInstructionScheme
ControlConstructScheme
QuestionScheme
CategoryScheme
PhysicalStructureScheme
RecordLayoutScheme
ConceptGroup
Concept
DataElementConcept
Instruction
CodeScheme
VariableScheme
Category
Variable
VariableGroup
NCube
NCubeGroup
RecordRelationship
Comparison
GenericMapType (ref by: ConceptMap, VariableMap, QuestionMap, UniverseMap, 
CategoryMap)
CodeMap
Universe
Instrument
NCubeScheme
CategoryGroup
CoordinateGroup
Embargo

As for Code in controlconstruct, our understanding is that this is a code 
part of a programming code. For example IfCondition where Code contains 
the processible code of the expression. Under what conditions would this 
require XHTML??? Anyway, after we get this version out the door we will be 
looking at fine tuning the machine actionability of DDI, this section 
being a case in point.



On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Karl Dinkelmann wrote:

> Okay, sorry Wendy was pulled away for a while.  I believe for the most
> part you are right this has to do with the remaining labels (i.e.
> response option labels, SAS labels, etc).  So the three highest priority
> items for us are as follows:
> (1) d:Text element embedded in the d:LiteralText element (outlined in
> the original email, and this would include the MultipleQuestionItem too)
> (2) r:Label element embedded in the l:Category element (and the
> l:LogicalProduct parent)
> (3) r:Label element embedded RepresentationType and the various
> substitution elements
>
> I believe that we would also eventually need XHTML for the following
> DynamicTextTypes might currently be set to the "xs:string" type and they
> should accept XHTML formatting:
>  *d:Text element embedded in the d:LiteralText element under the
> d:DisplayText element found in the d:StatementItem (in the
> ControlConstructScheme)
>  *Outside the previously mentioned QuestionText/MultipleQuestionItem
> the 'Code' element found in the 'Expression' element (in
> ConditionalText) would need to accept XHTML formatting tags.
>  *d:Text element embedded in the ResponseText?
>
> Additionally, the various r:Code elements that are listed in the
> ControlConstruct elements  (under the ControlConstructScheme) need to
> except XHTML content, they all appear to be xs:string at the moment and
> we could have formatting items in the code elements.
>
> I know there are areas that I am overlooking (such as the r:Label
> element embedded in the InterviewerInstructionScheme, among others), but
> I don't have the time to completely review all these.  I have attempted
> to focus my efforts on questionnaire documentation elements that we are
> currently using within MQDS and are creating a problem now.
>
> Thanks in advance and please let me know if you have any questions.
> Karl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Thomas [mailto:wlt at pop.umn.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: Karl Dinkelmann
> Cc: Nicole Kirgis; Isabella Yeh
> Subject: RE: DDI V3 and formatted questionnaire text
>
> That will work for us. I've sent them a heads up on this.
>
> wendy
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Karl Dinkelmann wrote:
>
>> No, thank-you Wendy!  Just a quick note that I am still reviewing this
>> and will have the list of areas with (with our priorities, if that
>> helps) within the hour...  K
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wendy Thomas [mailto:wlt at pop.umn.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:23 PM
>> To: Karl Dinkelmann
>> Cc: Nicole Kirgis; Isabella Yeh
>> Subject: RE: DDI V3 and formatted questionnaire text
>>
>>
>> Thanks Karl!
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Karl Dinkelmann wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt reply Wendy (then again promptest email
>> replying person I know...;-), as for your question, "Do labels and
> this
>> would mean ALL labels in DDI need to be structured strings?" my gut
>> response would be yes, but I can look further into this first thing in
>> the morning and try to get something back to you before 9 AM my time
>> that verifies this.  More tomorrow, K.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Wendy Thomas [mailto:wlt at pop.umn.edu]
>>> Sent: Mon 3/23/2009 5:14 PM
>>> To: Karl Dinkelmann
>>> Cc: Nicole Kirgis; Isabella Yeh
>>> Subject: Re: DDI V3 and formatted questionnaire text
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karl,
>>>
>>> This has been resolved as noted in the bug in the note starting with
>>> "ACTION:"
>>>
>>> We are in the process of making the resolved updates to the DDI and
>> they
>>> should be distributed for review and voting purposes about April 19.
>> We
>>> will not be able to get them done prior to that date due to various
>> travel
>>> commitments of key TIC members.
>>>
>>> This solves the issue for QuestionText but does not address category
>>> labels. Do labels and this would mean ALL labels in DDI need to be
>>> structured strings? A fast answer is desired. Don't know if we can
> get
>>> this in this revision as we have made an "official" cut off, but this
>>> would be a non invlaidating change...I think. I have to check to see
>> if we
>>> added any required attributes.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Karl Dinkelmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wendy,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was just about to send the following email (listed below) to the
>>>> DDI-User group email address until I found the following bug log
>> entry
>>>> in Mantis (http://mantis.ddialliance.org/view.php?id=223, also
>> attached
>>>> as a pdf file).  Do you have any idea when this fix will be released
>> to
>>>> a publicly available schema?  We are running into issues while
>>>> attempting to store formatted question text (I suspect that we will
>> run
>>>> into similar issues when exporting other items that allow formatting
>>>> within a Blaise application such as response option text - I can try
>> to
>>>> generate of other areas that Blaise allows for formatting element if
>>>> that would be helpful?).  Nevertheless, when should we expect to
> have
>>>> access to an updated schema?  We are current scheduling having our
>>>> updated version of MQDS that creates DDI V3 xml ready at the
>> beginning
>>>> of June.  Anyway, I hope this email finds you well!  Best, Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding formatted text within a questionnaire
>> (more
>>>> specifically: question text, response option text, etc) and how
>>>> formatting aspects (such as underlined, bold, italicized text, etc)
>> are
>>>> preserved in DDI V3 output.  It does not appear that one can
> document
>>>> formatted questionnaire text (unless I am overlooking something).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The issue I am having is that text within questionnaire can have any
>>>> number of formatting characteristics (for example, a word is
>> underlined
>>>> for emphasis).  However, the currently <d:Text> element embedding in
>> the
>>>> <d:LiteralText> element does not currently allow for formatted test
>> (see
>>>> example listed below).  Am I overlooking something here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <d:QuestionItem isVersionable="true" id="QuestionID">
>>>>      <d:QuestionText>
>>>>            <d:LiteralText>
>>>>                  <d:Text>question text - does not allow formatted
>>>> content (or XHTML) content</d:Text>
>>>>            </d:LiteralText>
>>>>      </d:QuestionText>
>>>> </d:QuestionItem>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance and best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>>> Data Access Core Director                Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>>> University of Minnesota
>>> 50 Willey Hall
>>> 225 19th Avenue South
>>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>> Data Access Core Director		 Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>> University of Minnesota
>> 50 Willey Hall
>> 225 19th Avenue South
>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>
>
> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
> Data Access Core Director		 Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
> University of Minnesota
> 50 Willey Hall
> 225 19th Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>

Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
Data Access Core Director		 Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
University of Minnesota
50 Willey Hall
225 19th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55455