[DDI-SRG] DataKind
Sanda Ionescu
sandai at umich.edu
Thu Jan 3 13:01:09 EST 2008
OK, Wendy.
To further clarify things:
- We meant to send the message, but, as I said before, were not sure if
we had done it. Ken was actually referring to this message, that
reflects the discussion within the Controlled Vocabularies Group.
- Secondly, I was revising the message yesterday and saw no reason why
we should move Data Source to Study Unit. At this point, I think it's
fine to stay in Data Collection, so please ignore that part (do not file
as a bug)
- Am looking at DataKind in 2.1 right now. Forthcoming.
Sanda.
Sanda Ionescu
ICPSR
University of Michigan
P.O. Box 1248
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
Phone, Fax: 734-615-7890
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Thomas [mailto:wlt at pop.umn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:53 PM
To: Sanda Ionescu
Cc: ddi-srg at icpsr.umich.edu
Subject: RE: DataKind
This came up during our TIC meeting. Ken mentioned it. I don't recall
seeing this email, but my brain has been turned off for a week so I may
just not recall it.
There is a reason for Data Source to be in Data Collection. Each Data
Collection activity may have a different Data Source and there needs to
be a clear connection between these. Why is it important to you that it
be in Study Unit?
Also, is it clear that the reason I'm asking about DataKind is that in
2.1 the DataProduct and the DataSource were a unique set (1..1) and in
3.0 there can be a n..1 (product to source) relationship
Wendy
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Sanda Ionescu wrote:
> Hi, Wendy,
>
> First of all, could you please help clarify a confusion on our part -
> did you file this bug in response to a message that Mary sent a while
> ago (see message text below) - she was out of the office for a while
> and we do not recall if this message was actually sent or not.
>
> Message text: (on behalf of the Controlled Vocabularies Working
Group):
> "Hi, Wendy.
>
> We would like to submit a request for a change in DDI 3.0 following
> our last two calls from December:
> (1) We don't think Data Source should map to Data Kind. Data Source
> content should be citations to actual sources, printed or
> machine-readable, for non-survey data.
>
> Related issues:
>
> (a) Data Source should not be in the Data Collection - Collection
> Event module but rather the Study Unit.
> (b) Child elements for Data Source are currently in error. They
> should be (from DDI 2 Tag Library):
>
> * Data Source Type (Used to list the book(s), article(s), serial(s),
> and/or machine-readable data file(s)--if any--that served as the
> source(s) of the data collection.)
> * Origin (For historical materials, information about the origin(s) of
> the sources and the rules followed in establishing the sources should
> be specified. May not be relevant to survey data. )
> * Characteristics (Assessment of characteristics and quality of source
> material. May not be relevant to survey data.)
> * Please add this: Documentation (Level of documentation of the
> original sources. May not be relevant to survey data. )
> * Current "Description" element should be removed.
>
> (2) Data Kind should be reinstated in the Study Unit module with its
> DDI
> 2 definition: The type of data included in the file: survey data,
> census/enumeration data, aggregate data, clinical data,
> event/transaction data, program source code, machine-readable text,
> administrative records data, experimental data, psychological test,
> textual data, coded textual, coded documents, time budget diaries,
> observation data/ratings, process-produced data, etc. This element
> maps to Dublin Core Type element." -- end text :-)
>
> Sanda.
>
> Sanda Ionescu
> ICPSR
> University of Michigan
> P.O. Box 1248
> Ann Arbor, MI 48106
>
> Phone, Fax: 734-615-7890
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wendy Thomas [mailto:wlt at pop.umn.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:05 PM
> To: ddi-srg at icpsr.umich.edu
> Cc: Mary Vardigan; Sanda Ionescu
> Subject: DataKind
>
> I am adding the bug on missing DataKind and have a question. In DDI
> 2.0 there was a different StudyUnit for each logical product (e.g.
> microdata, aggregate, etc from the 1990 Census). Does DataKind refer
> to the data SOURCE or the data PRODUCT?
>
> <!-- 2.2.3.10 Kind of Data.
> -->
> <!-- The type of data included in the file: survey data,
> census/enumeration
> data, aggregate data, clinical data, event/transaction data,
> program
> source code, machine-readable text, administrative records data,
> experimental data, psychological test, textual data, coded
> textual,
> coded documents, time budget diaries, observation data/ratings,
> process-produced data, etc.
> -->
>
> This is a subelement of Summary Description
>
> Wendy
>
>
> Wendy L. Thomas Phone: +1 612.624.4389
> Data Access Core Director Fax: +1 612.626.8375
> Minnesota Population Center Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
> University of Minnesota
> 50 Willey Hall
> 225 19th Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>
Wendy L. Thomas Phone: +1 612.624.4389
Data Access Core Director Fax: +1 612.626.8375
Minnesota Population Center Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
University of Minnesota
50 Willey Hall
225 19th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55455
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