[DDI-SRG] SummaryStatistic and external code list for this purpose?

[Joachim Wackerow]

Thanks.
I understood the whole construction but not that codeListID is an URN. 
The documentation says only: "Identifies the code list that the value is 
taken from." Actually I'm not sure if this is the intention that 
codeListID is an URN. As you said there should be the possibility to use 
an URI, but there isn't. We should ask Arofan at Thursday.

Achim

Wendy Thomas wrote:
> SummaryStatistic  type="SummaryStatisticType"
> SummaryStatisticType contains
> SummaryStatisticType which is r:CodeValueType
> 
> SummaryStatisticTypeCodedType is a substitution for SummaryStatisticType 
> and is a restricted R:CodeValueType
> 
> 
> Sooooo if you use SummaryStatisticType rather than 
> SummaryStatisticTypeCodeType you are valid with using a genericode urn 
> or LocationURI in the codeListID, but it does not validate the content
> 
> Wendy
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
> 
>> OK.
>> I agree completely. We should make a review what to define as 
>> genericode and we should make sure that external code can be used.
>>
>> SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType (which should be the 
>> genericode way and allow an external list).
>>
>> Achim
>>
>> Wendy Thomas wrote:
>>> Achim,
>>>
>>> There was not a complete consistant review of what should be internal 
>>> and what should be external. In short, if we've provided something 
>>> internal you are supposed to use it. This means we need to review 
>>> this carefully. It is why I sent Ken and his committee a listing of 
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> What codes are defined internally
>>> What locations allow option for controlled vocabulary (genericde)
>>> What locations allow only a string and need to be reviewed for 
>>> optional use of controlled vocabulary (genericode)
>>>
>>> I believe the list was also copied to TIC but I will verify.
>>>
>>> I will put this on Thursday's agenda.
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wendy,
>>>>
>>>> SummaryStatistic is just an example for me. I would like to explore 
>>>> the possibility of using an external genericode list. So my question 
>>>> is general. At which elements you have the option of using an 
>>>> internal and external list?
>>>>
>>>> re: SummaryStatistic, why should this be restricted to an internal 
>>>> definition? It can make sense to define an own list to which the 
>>>> instance should be validated to. otherValue seems to be a poor choice.
>>>>
>>>> The option of using an internal and external lsit should also exist 
>>>> for IsoCountryCodeType (probably for others as well). This way DDI 
>>>> can be used independently from a changing country list. 
>>>> (IsoCountryCodeType is not defined as genericode). A genericode ISO 
>>>> country list see:
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/cl/gc/default/CountryIdentificationCode-2.0.gc 
>>>>
>>>> Achim
>>>>
>>>> Wendy Thomas wrote:
>>>>> Achim
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case SummaryStatisticTypeCoded you don't have the option of 
>>>>> using and external. We restricted it to an internal list. At least 
>>>>> this is my understanding. You can use a value of UseOther and 
>>>>> supply it in the otherValue attribute but you can't say where it is 
>>>>> from.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I am misreading your problem and causing you frustration just 
>>>>> mentally smack me on the head and ignore me :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wendy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand how to use an external code list stored in a 
>>>>>> file according to Genericode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm exploring the possibility to use an external code list for 
>>>>>> SummaryStatistic in physicalinstance. How can the file be 
>>>>>> referenced by an URI or URN? I'm confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType. 
>>>>>> SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a substitutionGroup of 
>>>>>> SummaryStatistic. In the instance SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a 
>>>>>> child of SummaryStatistic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached is a basic valid DDI instance with 
>>>>>> SummaryStatisticTypeCoded and a valid genericode instance with new 
>>>>>> measures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
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>>>>>> Visiting address: B2 1, 68159 Mannheim, Germany
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>>>>>> E-mail: joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
>>>>>> www.gesis.org/en/institute/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>>>>> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>>>>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>>>>> University of Minnesota
>>>>> 50 Willey Hall
>>>>> 225 19th Avenue South
>>>>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
>>>> Postal address: P.O. Box 122155, 68072 Mannheim, Germany
>>>> Visiting address: B2 1, 68159 Mannheim, Germany
>>>> Phone: +49 (0)621 1246 262
>>>> Fax: +49 (0)621 1246 100
>>>> E-mail: joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
>>>> www.gesis.org/en/institute/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>>> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>>> University of Minnesota
>>> 50 Willey Hall
>>> 225 19th Avenue South
>>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>
> 
> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
> University of Minnesota
> 50 Willey Hall
> 225 19th Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55455