[DDI-SRG] SummaryStatistic and external code list for this purpose?

[Wendy Thomas]

SummaryStatistic  type="SummaryStatisticType"
SummaryStatisticType contains
SummaryStatisticType which is r:CodeValueType

SummaryStatisticTypeCodedType is a substitution for SummaryStatisticType 
and is a restricted R:CodeValueType


Sooooo if you use SummaryStatisticType rather than 
SummaryStatisticTypeCodeType you are valid with using a genericode urn or 
LocationURI in the codeListID, but it does not validate the content

Wendy


On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:

> OK.
> I agree completely. We should make a review what to define as genericode and 
> we should make sure that external code can be used.
>
> SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType (which should be the 
> genericode way and allow an external list).
>
> Achim
>
> Wendy Thomas wrote:
>> Achim,
>> 
>> There was not a complete consistant review of what should be internal and 
>> what should be external. In short, if we've provided something internal you 
>> are supposed to use it. This means we need to review this carefully. It is 
>> why I sent Ken and his committee a listing of the following:
>> 
>> What codes are defined internally
>> What locations allow option for controlled vocabulary (genericde)
>> What locations allow only a string and need to be reviewed for optional use 
>> of controlled vocabulary (genericode)
>> 
>> I believe the list was also copied to TIC but I will verify.
>> 
>> I will put this on Thursday's agenda.
>> 
>> Wendy
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
>> 
>>> Wendy,
>>> 
>>> SummaryStatistic is just an example for me. I would like to explore the 
>>> possibility of using an external genericode list. So my question is 
>>> general. At which elements you have the option of using an internal and 
>>> external list?
>>> 
>>> re: SummaryStatistic, why should this be restricted to an internal 
>>> definition? It can make sense to define an own list to which the instance 
>>> should be validated to. otherValue seems to be a poor choice.
>>> 
>>> The option of using an internal and external lsit should also exist for 
>>> IsoCountryCodeType (probably for others as well). This way DDI can be used 
>>> independently from a changing country list. (IsoCountryCodeType is not 
>>> defined as genericode). A genericode ISO country list see:
>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/cl/gc/default/CountryIdentificationCode-2.0.gc 
>>> 
>>> Achim
>>> 
>>> Wendy Thomas wrote:
>>>> Achim
>>>> 
>>>> In this case SummaryStatisticTypeCoded you don't have the option of using 
>>>> and external. We restricted it to an internal list. At least this is my 
>>>> understanding. You can use a value of UseOther and supply it in the 
>>>> otherValue attribute but you can't say where it is from.
>>>> 
>>>> If I am misreading your problem and causing you frustration just mentally 
>>>> smack me on the head and ignore me :)
>>>> 
>>>> Wendy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't understand how to use an external code list stored in a file 
>>>>> according to Genericode.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm exploring the possibility to use an external code list for 
>>>>> SummaryStatistic in physicalinstance. How can the file be referenced by 
>>>>> an URI or URN? I'm confused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType. 
>>>>> SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a substitutionGroup of SummaryStatistic. In 
>>>>> the instance SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a child of SummaryStatistic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attached is a basic valid DDI instance with SummaryStatisticTypeCoded 
>>>>> and a valid genericode instance with new measures.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
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>>>>> Visiting address: B2 1, 68159 Mannheim, Germany
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>>>>> E-mail: joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
>>>>> www.gesis.org/en/institute/
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>>>> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>>>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>>>> University of Minnesota
>>>> 50 Willey Hall
>>>> 225 19th Avenue South
>>>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
>>> Postal address: P.O. Box 122155, 68072 Mannheim, Germany
>>> Visiting address: B2 1, 68159 Mannheim, Germany
>>> Phone: +49 (0)621 1246 262
>>> Fax: +49 (0)621 1246 100
>>> E-mail: joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
>>> www.gesis.org/en/institute/
>>> 
>> 
>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
>> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
>> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
>> University of Minnesota
>> 50 Willey Hall
>> 225 19th Avenue South
>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>

Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
Data Access Core Director		 Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
University of Minnesota
50 Willey Hall
225 19th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55455