[DDI-SRG] SummaryStatistic and external code list for this purpose?

Joachim Wackerow joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
Mon Dec 8 10:51:49 EST 2008


OK.
I agree completely. We should make a review what to define as genericode 
and we should make sure that external code can be used.

SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType (which should be the 
genericode way and allow an external list).

Achim

Wendy Thomas wrote:
> Achim,
> 
> There was not a complete consistant review of what should be internal 
> and what should be external. In short, if we've provided something 
> internal you are supposed to use it. This means we need to review this 
> carefully. It is why I sent Ken and his committee a listing of the 
> following:
> 
> What codes are defined internally
> What locations allow option for controlled vocabulary (genericde)
> What locations allow only a string and need to be reviewed for optional 
> use of controlled vocabulary (genericode)
> 
> I believe the list was also copied to TIC but I will verify.
> 
> I will put this on Thursday's agenda.
> 
> Wendy
> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
> 
>> Wendy,
>>
>> SummaryStatistic is just an example for me. I would like to explore 
>> the possibility of using an external genericode list. So my question 
>> is general. At which elements you have the option of using an internal 
>> and external list?
>>
>> re: SummaryStatistic, why should this be restricted to an internal 
>> definition? It can make sense to define an own list to which the 
>> instance should be validated to. otherValue seems to be a poor choice.
>>
>> The option of using an internal and external lsit should also exist 
>> for IsoCountryCodeType (probably for others as well). This way DDI can 
>> be used independently from a changing country list. 
>> (IsoCountryCodeType is not defined as genericode). A genericode ISO 
>> country list see:
>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/cl/gc/default/CountryIdentificationCode-2.0.gc 
>>
>>
>> Achim
>>
>> Wendy Thomas wrote:
>>> Achim
>>>
>>> In this case SummaryStatisticTypeCoded you don't have the option of 
>>> using and external. We restricted it to an internal list. At least 
>>> this is my understanding. You can use a value of UseOther and supply 
>>> it in the otherValue attribute but you can't say where it is from.
>>>
>>> If I am misreading your problem and causing you frustration just 
>>> mentally smack me on the head and ignore me :)
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, Joachim Wackerow wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't understand how to use an external code list stored in a file 
>>>> according to Genericode.
>>>>
>>>> I'm exploring the possibility to use an external code list for 
>>>> SummaryStatistic in physicalinstance. How can the file be referenced 
>>>> by an URI or URN? I'm confused.
>>>>
>>>> SummaryStatisticType is of type r:CodeValueType. 
>>>> SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a substitutionGroup of 
>>>> SummaryStatistic. In the instance SummaryStatisticTypeCoded is a 
>>>> child of SummaryStatistic.
>>>>
>>>> Attached is a basic valid DDI instance with 
>>>> SummaryStatisticTypeCoded and a valid genericode instance with new 
>>>> measures.
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> GESIS - Leibniz Institute for the Social Sciences
>> Postal address: P.O. Box 122155, 68072 Mannheim, Germany
>> Visiting address: B2 1, 68159 Mannheim, Germany
>> Phone: +49 (0)621 1246 262
>> Fax: +49 (0)621 1246 100
>> E-mail: joachim.wackerow at gesis.org
>> www.gesis.org/en/institute/
>>
> 
> Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
> Data Access Core Director         Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
> Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
> University of Minnesota
> 50 Willey Hall
> 225 19th Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55455



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