[DDI-CDG] Conference call doesn't work

[Peter Granda]

Greetings, all!

Unfortunately I have another meeting at 10 tomorrow (Tuesday) and won't be 
able to join.  I only wanted to make two points:

1) It does not hurt to remind ourselves that we need to deliver something 
by the end of the month to the SRG.  Unless we plan to make significant 
changes in the next week, I propose that we send them the RC-NS proposal 
and spreadsheet along with Oliver's overview.  These documents will at 
least provide them with the status of the group's efforts to date.

2) I think the we are still far off from the separate module that Wendy 
suggests.  As noted in the spreadsheet, "revising the DDI for more complex 
datasets cannot be solely done [by] adding new elements, as implied in the 
update procedure, but supposes deeper revision of the concepts."  If CDG 
needs cannot be met until this revision occurs, we should inform and 
involve the other working groups as soon as possible.

Peter

At 11:05 AM 9/16/2005, you wrote:



>Dear all,
>
>
>At the last telephone conference, Wendy has underscored that the SRG 
>expects nicely formatted data element lists to consider proposals for 
>extension. You know how I think about simple lists: it is important to 
>share concepts in the first place. So I started with the concepts, and 
>forgot a bit of the list.
>
>Wendy put me back on the SRG track and I worked out the Excel list. You 
>got it already; I attach it to this message again. Actually , it is just 
>an annex to the kind of document form, which Oliver has completed and 
>submitted to discussion.
>
>Working on the data elements, I was disturbed by some discrepancies 
>between the text prepared by Oliver for the group proposal and the 
>approach I have chosen to take. I think that this is due to the fact that 
>Oliver covers all issues considered in the group in various conferences, 
>meetings and settings. On the other hand, I make epistemological and 
>methodological choices in my proposal, which don't support some of the 
>approaches considered in Oliver's paper.
>
>The text we have discussed in the last TC is actually a good summary 
>report of all the considerations that were expressed in the group. In this 
>form, it is not a proposal yet; the first version appropriately stated 
>that no specific metadata elements could be proposed. The demand I made to 
>Oliver, to include the Wackarow wrapper and my RC-NS proposals was 
>inappropriate; sorry for that. In any case, the RC-NS idea gives flesh 
>only to a part of the ideas considered in the group.
>
>
>So, I have gone through the template, and completed the various topics so 
>they are congruent with the RC-NS proposal and its postulates, in the 
>first place to know how it would look like. It is presented as a proposal 
>produced (funded) by SIDOS and the MetaDater. The members of the CDG come 
>to play as sponsors; I actually felt interest for the proposal, so I just 
>took the full list of members as sponsoring partners, as Oliver did. If 
>some of you think the proposal is not appropriate, they can request to be 
>withdrawn from the list. In my view, this does not imply that no other 
>proposal formulated in the group can be sponsored: in my view, the field 
>is complex enough to make it reasonable to sponsor more than one proposal! 
>Nothing in the Alliance rules seems to oppose to that.
>
>Hence my proposal: I deposit the RC-NS proposal in a consistent form, and 
>Oliver delivers his overview report. I did not hear about Joachim, who 
>sits in the SRG anyway...
>
>
>Reto
>
>
>P.S. By the way, there is nothing new, neither in the Excel file or in the 
>proposal attached. I have just transferred the information from pages 50 
>and ff. from the general text to the sheet, to comply with the CDG standard...
>
>The rest of the package: 
>http://info1.za.uni-koeln.de/ddicdg/documents/RCNS_050706.zip
>
>
>At 14.09.2005, you wrote:
>>To all of you who are waiting!
>>
>>I haven't been called so far by UoM's call center, but I think that's not 
>>too bad, since Reto has provided us with a lot of food for thought, which 
>>I at least have to digest first. How about postponing the call to next 
>>Tuesday? Until then we can gather comments and questions.
>>
>>Oliver.
>>
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