[DDI-ADG] minutes, DDI-ADG conference call 8/2/05

[Wendy Thomas]

Thanks. As for Oliver, yes that will work. It just wasn't clear that there
was a difference. But then again...it could just be my fuddled mind :-)

wendy

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Katherine McNeill-Harman wrote:

> Revision to the minutes:
> - I intentded to put "Mary and Sanda will review..."; my brain must have
> swapped the two names ending in a "y"-- I'll send them out again.
> - We know that Oliver chairs the CDG, but had down that you suggested to
> send it to the SRG for their information, but address it to Oliver as the
> chair of the CDG.  If you think my email to them was unclear, feel free to
> reply and add any additional info.
>
> Kate
>
> At 11:31 AM 8/2/2005 -0500, Wendy Thomas wrote:
> >Just a couple of comments. Oliver chairs the CDG (comparative) rather than
> >the SRG (structural reform). Um...I didn't volunteer to go through those
> >tags and will have no time to do so. Sorry about that, but I've really got
> >my hands full with the SRG.
> >
> >Wendy
> >
> >On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Katherine McNeill-Harman wrote:
> >
> > > Following are brief minutes from today's conference call (let me know any
> > > corrections that need to be made); J, please make note of action item #4
> > > for which we volunteered you.
> > >
> > > Minutes
> > > DDI Aggregate Data, Geography & Time Working Group
> > > August 2, 2005, 11am-12pm U.S. EDT
> > > Present: Sanda Ionescu, Kate McNeill-Harman (minutes), Ken Miller, Wendy
> > > Thomas, Mary Vardigan
> > >
> > > Action Items:
> > > 1. Kate will forward to the SRG (addressed to Oliver Watteler) the time
> > > method definitions she gathered for their use in creating the controlled
> > > vocabulary.  She will remind them to include time method indicators for
> > > stand-alone data files that might not be considered comparative data, and
> > > offer our group's help on this if needed.
> > > 2. Kate will try to locate an ISO (or other) standard for describing
> > > frequencies.
> > > 3. Wendy and Sanda will review the DDI and pull out a list of elements with
> > > date stamps.
> > > 4. J should summarize the time decisions to date in a spreadsheet (similar
> > > to the one for geography), looking at the structure outlined in the
> > > TemporalCoverage section of the "reusable classes" sheet of the
> > > spreadsheet, DDI-Version3-SRG_TagNames.xls.  This should be done this week
> > > in order to provide time for review and comment before the next meeting.
> > >
> > > Minutes:
> > > The group continued the discussion of time method.  It was indicated that
> > > the Comparative Data Group will be developing suggested controlled
> > > vocabulary for time method.  Members agreed to send that group the
> > > information gathered thus far on definitions for them to incorporate,
> > > emphasizing their need to include aspects of time method that may not refer
> > > to families of datasets.
> > >
> > > Members then discussed the role of administrative dates and how those
> > > should relate to the content-related dates discussed thus far.  This
> > > included a discussion of the role of versions.  Wendy reported that the SRG
> > > will be working on this.
> > >
> > > It was also agreed that it would be helpful to review how dates are used
> > > throughout the DDI.  For example, it might be helpful to have date stamps
> > > in multiple other elements to serve as placeholders for authors to remind
> > > them that they might want to indicate the date aspect of a particular
> > > element.   Wendy and Sanda volunteered to do this.
> > >
> > > Members agreed to have frequency as a strongly-typed variable with a
> > > controlled vocabulary.  Kate will try to locate an ISO (or other) standard
> > > for describing frequencies.  It was agreed that an "other" option should be
> > > provided in case the study has a frequency not provided by the given
> > > choices.  It was mentioned that frequency could apply to groups of studies
> > > (e.g. a periodic survey that is done annually), a single study (a time
> > > series with annual data), or a variable (a data set with annual data for
> > > some variables and quarterly data for others).  Therefore it was mentioned
> > > that frequency may be helpful as a reusable class that could be applied at
> > > the variable level as well.
> > >
> > > The group agreed that next week should be the last phone conference to
> > > discuss time, after which (or even starting in the next meeting, if
> > > possible) they would move onto aggregate data.  In order to do this, J will
> > > need to incorporate today's and previous time discussions into a
> > > spreadsheet (similar to the one for geography), looking at the structure
> > > outlined in the TemporalCoverage section of the "reusable classes" sheet of
> > > the spreadsheet, DDI-Version3-SRG_TagNames.xls.  The group will then review
> > > this, and the date stamps, at the next meeting, and make final decisions on
> > > time.
> > >
> > > ___________________________________________
> > > Katherine McNeill-Harman
> > > Data Services Librarian
> > > Dewey Library for Management and Social Sciences
> > > Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> > > 77 Massachusetts Avenue, E53-100
> > > Cambridge, MA 02139
> > > mcneillh at mit.edu
> > > 617-253-0787
> > >
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> >
> >Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
> >Data Access Core Director               Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
> >Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
> >University of Minnesota
> >50 Willey Hall
> >225 19th Avenue South
> >Minneapolis, MN 55455
>
> ___________________________________________
> Katherine McNeill-Harman
> Data Services Librarian
> Dewey Library for Management and Social Sciences
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
> 77 Massachusetts Avenue, E53-100
> Cambridge, MA 02139
> mcneillh at mit.edu
> 617-253-0787
>

Wendy L. Thomas                          Phone: +1 612.624.4389
Data Access Core Director		 Fax:   +1 612.626.8375
Minnesota Population Center              Email: wlt at pop.umn.edu
University of Minnesota
50 Willey Hall
225 19th Avenue South
Minneapolis, MN 55455